Hostility in the sex industry

[adastra]

The hostility in this industry can be insane at times. I don’t want to clog up ravens review thread. Better a lounge topic
But I’ll say for now a big reason why so many don’t accept text apps or anonymous inquiries is because so many try to fuck with each others biz . Especially in this economy
Some of the bs is cuz some guys are just shady assholes but I can’t ignore the factor of SPs lashing out at each other

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Oops I meant to quote adastras post. But I’m sure anyone with half a brain will figure out what post i was responding to

I would like to create a topic specifically on this issue. Menz has already experienced hostility directed towards it; it’s not an industry that welcomes newcomers with open arms. The economy is expected to worsen this year, which will likely increase competition among the pool of clients. With more competition, should we anticipate even greater hostility?

[Lawman]

The only thing I can share regarding this topic is that I've encountered situations on multiple occasions where I've provided references to a provider I'd like to book with, only to have them reject one of my references due to a personal conflict with that individual provider. In fact, one of the tines the provider even went into detail about their issues with the referenced provider during our appointment, which was quite a turn off (though thankfully, the deed had already been done).

[adastra]

The only thing I can share regarding this topic is that I've encountered situations on multiple occasions where I've provided references to a provider I'd like to book with, only to have them reject one of my references due to a personal conflict with that individual provider. In fact, one of the tines the provider even went into detail about their issues with the referenced provider during our appointment, which was quite a turn off (though thankfully, the deed had already been done).

Wow that is interesting. Because we are thinking to build in a feature on Menz where the SP can endorse a member, same thing as a reference. But I never even considered that you might get rejected based on that endorsement.

[thatsoraven]

I would like to create a topic specifically on this issue. Menz has already experienced hostility directed towards it; it’s not an industry that welcomes newcomers with open arms. The economy is expected to worsen this year, which will likely increase competition among the pool of clients. With more competition, should we anticipate even greater hostility?

It's the wild west out there. There are Providers who have NEVER met me that have iced me out or have contributed to slandering / canceling me .Much has been done to make sure my side of the story has never come to light. 
There are lot of social climbers in this industry.  Not everyone, but a lot. Basically the same issues we face in the real world with group dynamics exist here . Nothing new,  but frustrating none the less. If you've got money , followers, or intel they switch up on each other quickly,  too. I am picky about who I duo with, and I don't get as involved as I used to. In the past I mentored at least 4 girls for free and gave up many hours of my life ,  2 of those girls did not do me dirty and we are still in contact today. Cannot say the same for the other 2. I dont mentor anymore. Smarter to keep to yourself ,  and save your strength for the right battles.

[MissHunter]

I’ve noticed a crazy uptick in incalls getting reported in the attempt to get them shut down over the past year or so

^^ why so many don’t want to do anonymous bookings by text apps & have deposit policies in place to at least try to make sure you’re only giving addresses out to legit clients

Nothing is a 100% guarantee but those methods do help

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Fake bookings have always been an issue. I assume those are happening more often lately

To an extent, I understand why some clients want complete privacy when booking. And are hesitant to pay deposits because of scammers but if a provider doesn’t have some level of screening in there’s a good chance they’ll get hammered by bs

[thatsoraven]

I’ve noticed a crazy uptick in incalls getting reported in the attempt to get them shut down over the past year or so

^^ why so many don’t want to do anonymous bookings by text apps & have deposit policies in place to at least try to make sure you’re only giving addresses out to legit clients

Nothing is a 100% guarantee but those methods do help

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Fake bookings have always been an issue. I assume those are happening more often lately

To an extent, I understand why some clients want complete privacy when booking. And are hesitant to pay deposits because of scammers but if a provider doesn’t have some level of screening in there’s a good chance they’ll get hammered by bs

I refuse to accept texting apps

[Boomba]

At Reach Studios, twice ive called ahead and booked with a specific girl but when I arrive and go into the room, a different girl came into the room for the appointment and told me that the girl I had booked with was with another client. Both times, it turned out that the girl who entered the room had taken the booking from the girl I originally scheduled with, and the girl i had scheduled with was waiting for me. Heard this from management and the girls when I had seen them at later dates.
I'm unsure whether this is specific to Reach or if similar situations occur at other places too.

[yaletownfuckboi]

At Reach Studios, twice ive called ahead and booked with a specific girl but when I arrive and go into the room, a different girl came into the room for the appointment and told me that the girl I had booked with was with another client. Both times, it turned out that the girl who entered the room had taken the booking from the girl I originally scheduled with, and the girl i had scheduled with was waiting for me. Heard this from management and the girls when I had seen them at later dates.
I'm unsure whether this is specific to Reach or if similar situations occur at other places too.

I've experienced something similar at one of the agencies in the past. One day the handler was either sick or unavailable for the day, so they assigned one of the providers to handle the phone for bookings. Unfortunately, she ended up keeping all the bookings for herself. 
You would schedule an appointment with a specific provider, but when you arrived, it was someone else, who turned out to be the provider who was put in charge of the phones.
I prefer not to mention the agency, but I did book with a white provider, and when I arrived, the provider I saw was black.

[ALTay]

The time is coming when girls will give their pussies for a dozen eggs...
Wait for it.
And I am waiting for the hard times impatiently, let those time bring strong people.
Some don't see the signs, some refuse to make A to B connection.
Let it be and let it roll !!!
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And yes, you may hate my post, but prophecy is often hated lol remember: 12 eggs for a fuck, just remember that

[adastra]

The time is coming when girls will give their pussies for a dozen eggs...
Wait for it.
And I am waiting for the hard times impatiently, let those time bring strong people.
Some don't see the signs, some refuse to make A to B connection.
Let it be and let it roll !!!
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And yes, you may hate my post, but prophecy is often hated lol remember: 12 eggs for a fuck, just remember that

Less clients buying sex and more escorts selling sex - that is a sure trend this year.

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I prefer not to mention the agency, but I did book with a white provider, and when I arrived, the provider I saw was black.

What did you say? What did she say?

I had an escort be the wrong picture when I arrived. So I walked. I text her after, I asked, why would you post a fake photo when you are already attractive lady? She said , 'cause everybody lies'.

[thatsoraven]

The time is coming when girls will give their pussies for a dozen eggs...
Wait for it.
And I am waiting for the hard times impatiently, let those time bring strong people.
Some don't see the signs, some refuse to make A to B connection.
Let it be and let it roll !!!
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And yes, you may hate my post, but prophecy is often hated lol remember: 12 eggs for a fuck, just remember that

I'd kill myself before I'd let you touch me, altay. Admitting you need women to be so desperate to survive that you'll be able to fuck them for cheaper is a weird flex

[Peyto]

The only thing I can share regarding this topic is that I've encountered situations on multiple occasions where I've provided references to a provider I'd like to book with, only to have them reject one of my references due to a personal conflict with that individual provider. In fact, one of the tines the provider even went into detail about their issues with the referenced provider during our appointment, which was quite a turn off (though thankfully, the deed had already been done).

Way back in the day when I was a lot more active. It was far easier to book with an INDY lady than it is today. From what I've read-- or have been reading ---  on PERB. Nowadays, booking with an INDY may resemble like climbing a slippery slope wearing sock slippers. For me, it doesn't seem worth it, especially with some demands required. I like simplicity. 

When the time comes for me visiting a lady. Agencies such as A/F, BUNZ, Asian massage facilty, or perhaps an Asian milf Indy massage. At my age now, a MASSAGE could benefit me greatly nowadays. Besides, I've never had a " massage " type of session. Could be worth the experience. I prefer it when the lady takes charge . If I enjoy a session with a lady. I tend to be a regular just as I was way back in the day with my fav.

[ALTay]

I'd kill myself before I'd let you touch me, altay. Admitting you need women to be so desperate to survive that you'll be able to fuck them for cheaper is a weird flex

You have distorted view if the world. Getting those 12 eggs for a man at the time of severe crisis will cost lives... i have seen that before , have you? Pink pony dilusional world ? Thats what are you about? Have you seen dogs eating human bodies on the streets? Have you seen humans eating humans? You are used to virtual BS instagram reality, while 60% of the world's population has no normal water and food access. Get broader view and education for me to pay attention to you again. 

You are delusional, not my taste and I am not deprived from women's attention, so no, I won't touch you now and even less likely at the time of crisis, I am sure there will be younger and better looking girls at that time, and maybe smarter and less delusional. For now, move on. I let you be. And no, don't kill yourself, we will need old girls workforce on potato fields, some will take 4 eggs instead of 12, maybe you will be one of the "sex for 4eggs category"
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[thatsoraven]

You have distorted view if the world. Getting those 12 eggs for a man at the time of severe crisis will cost lives... i have seen that before , have you? Pink pony dilusional world ? Thats what are you about? Have you seen dogs eating human bodies on the streets? Have you seen humans eating humans? You are used to virtual BS instagram reality, while 60% of the world's population has no normal water and food access. Get broader view and education for me to pay attention to you again. 

You are delusional, not my taste and I am not deprived from women's attention, so no, I won't touch you now and even less likely at the time of crisis, I am sure there will be younger and better looking girls at that time, and maybe smarter and less delusional. For now, move on. I let you be. And no, don't kill yourself, we will need old girls workforce on potato fields, some will take 4 eggs instead of 12, maybe you will be one of the "sex for 4eggs category"
?

Can we come up with the laughing emoji as a reply option, please ?

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Can we come up with the laughing emoji as a reply option, please ?

We live in Canada.... 
We are spoiled

[thatsoraven]

You have distorted view if the world. Getting those 12 eggs for a man at the time of severe crisis will cost lives... i have seen that before , have you? Pink pony dilusional world ? Thats what are you about? Have you seen dogs eating human bodies on the streets? Have you seen humans eating humans? You are used to virtual BS instagram reality, while 60% of the world's population has no normal water and food access. Get broader view and education for me to pay attention to you again. 

You are delusional, not my taste and I am not deprived from women's attention, so no, I won't touch you now and even less likely at the time of crisis, I am sure there will be younger and better looking girls at that time, and maybe smarter and less delusional. For now, move on. I let you be. And no, don't kill yourself, we will need old girls workforce on potato fields, some will take 4 eggs instead of 12, maybe you will be one of the "sex for 4eggs category"
?

 I checked your stat, it's not 60%, it's 30% according to current data

[ALTay]

Another resource for mental desert menu :
Q
Globally, a significant portion of the population faces challenges with access to safe water and food, with approximately 2.2 billion people lacking access to safely managed drinking water services and 3.5 billion lacking safely managed sanitation services. Additionally, around 2 billion people lack regular access to safe, nutritious, and sufficient food.
/Q
Un.org, your favorite globalists resource
2.2mlrd water + 2 mlrd food problems=4.2mlrd of 8mlrd =53% roughly... not by any means 30% of the world's population

30% come from? Bill Gates foundation?

You are poking the wrong bear, "4eggs" babe lol

This is my last moment of attention to you, use it wisely
One day you will get there if you read good books and you will see the light. Amen
RIP

[thatsoraven]

Another resource for mental desert menu :
Q
Globally, a significant portion of the population faces challenges with access to safe water and food, with approximately 2.2 billion people lacking access to safely managed drinking water services and 3.5 billion lacking safely managed sanitation services. Additionally, around 2 billion people lack regular access to safe, nutritious, and sufficient food.
/Q
Un.org, your favorite globalists resource
2.2mlrd water + 2 mlrd food problems=4.2mlrd of 8mlrd =53% roughly... not by any means 30% of the world's population

You are poking the wrong bear, "4eggs" babe lol

This is my last moment of attention to you, use it wisely
RIP

. Your main claim is that 60% of the world's population lacks access to normal water and food and that people are facing extreme survival conditions globally, to the extent of cannibalism and mass starvation.



Water: About 28% of the world's population (2.2 billion people) lack access to safely managed drinking water.

Sanitation: 46% (3.6 billion people) lack safely managed sanitation.

Food: 30% (2.4 billion people) face moderate to severe food insecurity, while 9% (735 million) experience chronic hunger.


These numbers show that while a huge portion of the world struggles, the idea that 60% have no normal access to food and water is misleading. Many suffer from insecurity—meaning they don’t always have reliable access—but this is different from total deprivation.



You brought up extreme cases—dogs eating human corpses, cannibalism, survival trade for food. These things have happened in war zones, failed states, and extreme famines (e.g., Holodomor, North Korea’s Arduous March, sieges like Leningrad). But these are not the global norm—they are worst-case scenarios under societal collapse.

Right now, even in the poorest nations, most people are not at the level of scavenging for corpses.

Starvation exists, but most of the world’s food problems are tied to affordability and distribution, not total lack of food.


Your argument is intense and emotionally driven—understandable if you’ve witnessed extreme hardship. But the way you frame it as an inevitable future for everyone isn’t supported by broad global data.

Also, you know nothing about my background or my families background either. Don't assume that I don't know what hardship is.

And why do people on this forum keep assuming I'm on IG? I am not. Are you on IG?

[ALTay]

I am really hoping in the next 1-3 years economy goes so down that "4 eggs for sex" girls feel it

Hopefully, useful women, who create something will increase their value. Everybody will become alert, active, slim and not overweight.

No electricity, no water from the tap. "Legs and teeth" feed the wolves. Men get appreciated as smart aggressive monkeys who protect and get food on the table.

What an amazing reboot for the society! Just waiting for it. We need a good shake. Western society is a rotten stump. Tariffs is just a baby game. Let it be harsher and harder and soon. Yes. I hope this utopia will become reality soon... only surgical amputation and suffering will save the West from a complete collapse. Let the chaos and Anarchy roll and rule! Oh yes.

Are you ready guys? I am, I have been through the above twice already, hopefully, will survive the third time. It is time for snowflakes to melt, lol

[adastra]

I am really hoping in the next 1-3 years economy goes so down that "4 eggs for sex" girls feel it
Hopefully, useful women, who create something will increase their value. Everybody will become alert, active, slim and not overweight.
No electricity, no water from the tap. "Legs and teeth" feed the wolves. Men get appreciated as smart aggressive monkeys who protect and get food on the table.
What an amazing reboot for the society! Just waiting for it. We need a good shake. Western society is a rotten stump. Tariffs is just a baby game. Let it be harsher and harder and soon. Yes. I hope this utopia will become reality soon... only surgical amputation and suffering will save the West from a complete collapse. Let the chaos and Anarchy roll and rule! Oh yes.
Are you ready guys? I am, I have been through the above twice already, hopefully, will survive the third time. It is time for snowflakes to melt, lol

Things can change fast. I never would have thought a man could use a women's bathroom - yet here we are. I don't live in the city, and never will again. For the last 3 years I've been caring for livestock and growing crops. We are not in this together, in any capacity, and if you can't read the writing on the walls - I feel sad for you.

For me I have zero interests in building up my social status or investing into this nation, with business or otherwise, my goals are to be off-grid, as free from government as possible in the next 3 years. (Aside from online business that I can do remotely from anywhere.)

I've got 12 chickens outside my door every morning. They are free range, happiest chickens in the world - accept, for eagles eating them once in a while. Freedom comes at a cost . Most chickens love thier slavery. They prefer the comfort of a coop over the freedom of a range. Humans are even worse, they will take security over freedom 100% of time, only monks chose freedom.

Do you know that Roosters will share their food? They will call over their hens and allow them to eat , even before they eat. Men use to be respected in western society. But today men use women's bathrooms, We are end game Altay, get your ammo stocked.