Cameras Located Within Agency and Provider Incall Spaces

[TB12]

Hello,

I can also mention that I have seen cameras at Bunz Club, Skyline, and Asian Fever.
I also have seen one at Nicole Vixen's incall location, placed on the counter immediately upon entering, and another time outside her unit's door.
Also Emily Woods had one, but I think she is retired.

Im not sure if my word holds any weight here, but thats what i have seen.

Thx

[razzar1234]

Has it been confirmed that Nicole Vixon records inside her incall? 

have seen it myself, and it was mentioned on perb. unlike other providers this one wasnt exactly hidden.

[MB_]

Personally, I would appreciate hearing an explanation from Nicole Vixen, as I noticed she now has an account here. The times I saw her, I don't recall ever noticing a camera, but I suppose that might be a sign of how captivated I was by her looks.

If she mentioned that she now understands things from the clients' perspective and stated she would no longer use a camera, I’d be open to seeing her again. However, if she continues using it, unfortunately, I would have to decline.

Regarding the other providers and agencies mentioned, I have no interest in seeing any of them. None of them are that good looking anyways.

Has it been confirmed that Nicole Vixon records inside her incall? 

This thread is problematic if we are posting false allegations from 3rd parties we cant verify. 

You guys are ruining this thread by posting unverified accusations.

I have seen one at Nicole Vixens too.

And for the record, she’s one of the most popular and best providers in the city. Probably top 3 favourites I have seen, and all for a reasonable pricepoint. We’re not trying to harm her business, I'm sure most guys would be happy to see her again. Our main concern is that she stops recording clients, as it compromises our privacy.

[adastr@]

(I edited your list SuperJ, we will use razzar1234's lists. - adastra)

[okfallsdude]

the Brielle chick in maple ridge/mission area records everything

someone posted it on perb

[Plato]

Natalie Bijoux in the massage section had a camera attached to the outside of her door at her west end location. She works sporadically.

[Boomba]

Natalie Bijoux in the massage section had a camera attached to the outside of her door at her west end location. She works sporadically.

I can confirm this as well, although it was a few years ago I saw her.

[princeofpersia]

Skyline record my weiner

[Marko]

What exactly do you expect us to do?  Do you want us to visit these incalls and take pictures or videos of the cameras so we can verify it for you? Essentially, are you asking us to dox ourselves just to prove it?

If you are legit user than I trust you. Such as Maverick/Gentlemen. If its not a regular user that is known then we shouldn't trust them.

Additionally, none of the providers or agencies mentioned have come forward here to deny having cameras inside their incalls. That says a lot, t’s practically an admission of guilt.

Humm, I wouldn't presume that. There are many reasons why someone would not post or sign up. Many SPs say that Menz is a website that they will never support by signing up or any association at all.

And if you think about it logically, what would any of us gain from lying about there being cameras inside the incalls? How would that benefit anyone?

Some escorts get haters, that hate on them for the sake of it. So they make up lies. So that is why reviews need to be members that we know.

I'm actually surprised that so many providers have an issue with this site, because your moderation style consistently places the burden of proof on men, never on women. A woman's testimony is given more weight than the testimony of ten men in your moderation approach.

I will try to improve, I made many mistakes here so far.

[MissHunter]

Skyline record my weiner

I’m trying to keep my responses general here on all this shit, 

But I highly doubt they want to record your wiener lol 

Maybe if it’s a special request and you pay them extra for it?

[MissHunter]

Shit I just realized I jumped back into a thread I was told to no longer respond on

But did I make you guys laugh at least? Hopefully at least a few of you have a sense of humour …

I’ll pack up my crack pipes & get off this thread now…

[Boomba]

Hey everyone, I just wanted to share that my ex girlfriend is a reputable and well known provider. I reached out to her to get her opinion on this issue. She believes it’s wrong to have cameras inside incalls without informing clients beforehand. She’s actually quite upset about it because she feels it violates clients consent and also is a bad look for girls in the industry as a whole who don’t engage in such practices.

I just wanted to share this to let you all know that not all escorts support this, there are many who strongly oppose the use of cameras inside incalls.

I asked her if she would be willing to sign up here to publicly share her stance, but she declined because she wants to avoid getting involved in any drama.

[Boomba]

Hey everyone, I just wanted to share that my ex girlfriend is a reputable and well known provider. I reached out to her to get her opinion on this issue. She believes it’s wrong to have cameras inside incalls without informing clients beforehand. She’s actually quite upset about it because she feels it violates clients consent and also is a bad look for girls in the industry as a whole who don’t engage in such practices.

I just wanted to share this to let you all know that not all escorts support this, there are many who strongly oppose the use of cameras inside incalls.

I asked her if she would be willing to sign up here to publicly share her stance, but she declined because she wants to avoid getting involved in any drama.

Why is it so upsetting?
Been in this a long long time most reputable parlours had them going back many YEARS 
If a reputable Indy or agency uses them what’s the problem ? I don’t understand the difference

It's upsetting because it breaches the trust and privacy between providers and clients. Also, it violates the clients consent. It also reflects poorly on other providers and causes clients overall to hesitate when booking with ladies, as they cannot determine which ones have incall cameras, since this information is never disclosed to clients prior. It also is a sexist double standard,

It's quite different when it comes to a parlour or brothel, as these are public facing businesses. Moreover, the cameras are almost always positioned at the front door well away from the areas where intimacy occurs in separate rooms. Additionally, many clients avoid parlours and brothels for this very reason.

[aceee]

It's quite different when it comes to a parlour or brothel, as these are public facing businesses. Moreover, the cameras are almost always positioned at the front door well away from the areas where intimacy occurs in separate rooms. Additionally, many clients avoid parlours and brothels for this very reason.

I’d add that brothels and parlous usually allow you to enter wearing a hood, COVID mask, and baseball cap, which offers a lot more anonymity.

[MissHunter]

Like lotlizard mentioned on another thread
I also miss the old days. Yeah there was risk involved but nothing like the current times where both sides are so suspicious & at war either each other

[Silverfox]

As providers in the current time we have to handle so much sensitive info already plus crazy risk with the economy taking a nose dive so we are targets for robbery
Why are you guys so upset about legal security cams on private property that don’t even capture anything shady?
Real question

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It's upsetting because it breaches the trust and privacy between providers and clients. Also, it violates the clients consent. It also reflects poorly on other providers and causes clients overall to hesitate when booking with ladies, as they cannot determine which ones have incall cameras, since this information is never disclosed to clients prior. It also is a sexist double standard,

It's quite different when it comes to a parlour or brothel, as these are public facing businesses. Moreover, the cameras are almost always positioned at the front door well away from the areas where intimacy occurs in separate rooms. Additionally, many clients avoid parlours and brothels for this very reason.

Sorry dear if you are uncomfortable with door cams that are not violating reasonable expectations of privacy 
They are almost everywhere now 
Not everyone on your “list” even has them but that’s a different argument entirely…
Plus in brothels ladies usually aren’t working alone so in some ways I’m really extra supportive of those who choose to use them independently as long as they handle that info ethically & legally

Everyone has explained why it upsets us and why its wrong, ad nauseam.
They are not legal, no matter how much you claim they are, it doesn't change the fact that they aren't.

It's not just a few people upset or having issues with this, it's a large number of individuals, the large majority of clients who are concerned about it.

You still haven't provided a valid reason for why it shouldn't be advertised.

Your bosses, along with the other agencies and women involved, have remained silent on the issue, which means they know it’s wrong and illegal.

You still haven't provided us with a statement from your lawyer, which probably means he either backed out because he knows it's illegal or he doesn't exist.

[not_a_drugdealer]

And why is it so hard for everyone here to understand “reasonable expectation of privacy”

Because when someone is having sex or is unclothed, there is a reasonable expectation of privacy. Why is that so difficult for you to understand?

[MissHunter]

And why is it so hard for everyone here to understand “reasonable expectation of privacy”

Because when someone is having sex or is unclothed, there is a reasonable expectation of privacy. Why is that so difficult for you to understand?

I never said filming people having sex or naked without consent is ok

[Silverfox]

Not legal? Sorry bro but a good friend who is a very experienced lawyer read through all my posts
He knows he can call me out on anything but he doesn’t have a problem with anything I’ve said so far 

Why do I need to provide an official statement? And I also don’t want to out my friend. He is a pooner too so his real name is nobody’s business so far I’m doing is trying to objectively debate posts here. I am an extremely tolerant person. Maybe too tolerant at times

Since he is a "reputable lawyer" receiving payment to represent a client, there is no issue with him issuing an official statement on his law firm's stationery and letterhead. This has nothing to do with him being a "pooner,", he can deny that and merely say he is representing a client. Doing so would enhance both his credibility and yours, as his current portrayal makes him seem like the worst lawyer in Canada.