Cameras Located Within Agency and Provider Incall Spaces

[Silverfox]

Why wouldn't he simply draft a statement on his firm's official letterhead stationary? There's no shame in that if his role was that he was hired solely to clarify this matter. It would be far more credible than him creating an account here. Lawyers do this all the time.

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Thats not true, you are completely lying. Theres a photo of it.

I am lying? Why would I do that I already know my unfiltered comments online annoy both pooners & fellow sw but I keep going 
Show me the proof dear 
I am one who thinks for herself

You're lying if you're claiming there isn't a camera at the AF location on Richards Street.

And again, why wouldn't you're lawyer simply draft a statement on his firm's official letterhead stationary? There's no shame in that if his role was that he was hired solely to clarify this matter. It would be far more credible than him creating an account here. Lawyers do this all the time.

[Silverfox]

Neither of us need to bs anything to be successful in life

I feel sorry for you guys

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You're lying if you're claiming there isn't a camera at the AF location on Richards Street.

And again, why wouldn't you're lawyer simply draft a statement on his firm's official letterhead stationary? There's no shame in that if his role was that he was hired solely to clarify this matter. It would be far more credible than him creating an account here. Lawyers do this all the time.

Where did I deny some of the other locations I work out of don’t have security cams? 

Btw .. I don’t work out of a Seymour and Richards location so I can’t comment on that bro

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Richards are we even talking about AF or Skyline?
My bimbo whore brain is getting confused

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And why should I aski my lawyer to draft a statement

I thought you guys already had your own lawyer giving you advice ??

Sounds like you're lawyer is backtracking if we wont write up a statement.

I'm referring to the Asian Fever location at Richards, as you mentioned:
"I can say the same thing about Asian Fever
But guys the AF location that was called out initially doesn’t even have a cam there lol"

I have seen that camera there, and there's a photo of it. That one is confirmed. (Asian Fever Richards location)

I'm not an expert on Skyline since I haven't been there, but it appears that several people have confirmed they have cameras in studio apartments, and no one from Skyline has denied it.

I haven't spoken to a lawyer about this, but it doesn’t require legal expertise to understand that recording audio or video in the same room during sexual acts, or filming naked individuals without their consent, is illegal. Therefore, your lawyer should provide a statement to establish his credibility, especially since you’re asserting that he speaks in absolutes.

[OF_Manager]

Just wanted to chime in that Skyline privately messaged the Perb moderators that they have cameras in their studio apartments, justifying it by saying they only face the door.

The Perb moderators were careless and shared a screenshot of it with another user, who then forwarded it to me (idiot perb mods)

Since they have admitted to it, this isn't just an accusation. Why doesn't Skyline join here and defend themselves?

[OF_Manager]

Just wanted to chime in that Skyline privately messaged the Perb moderators that they have cameras in their studio apartments, justifying it by saying they only face the door.

The Perb moderators were careless and shared a screenshot of it with another user, who then forwarded it to me (idiot perb mods)

Since they have admitted to it, this isn't just an accusation. Why doesn't Skyline join here and defend themselves?

Bro I have worked with them a long, long time

Curious to know of any of that data has been stored or used unethically? Lmk & show me proof. Pls

They have cameras inside a studio apartment, and you keep dancing around the topic and not admitting it or denying it because you know its true, and you know its rapey as fuck.

[OF_Manager]

Anyone with eyes and a few functioning brain cells in their head can see the cams at my Van spaces they are not sneaky & hidden  at all

Serious question

Has anything shady ever happened with that?? Like we are going back soooo many  years
My perspective is it’s 100% trustworthy.  I’m totally open to being proved wrong

Let’s gooo

How about you just admit that Skyline has cameras inside their incalls in studio apartments, and then we can have that discussion?

Or better yet, why not invite the Skyline owner to register here and defend their practices? Surely, they would want to stand up for their business.

[razzar1234]

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[Jennaxx]

Notice what shes doing here? She first gaslights us by claiming PDC doesn’t have cameras, and now she expands on her obvious lies by suggesting AF and skyline dont do it either. these cameras were literally spotted directly by clients. But that doesn’t matter.

You guys have to understand that agencies like pdc, af, etc build entire business on these lies. We’re talking millions in revenue each year.

These people have everything to gain and nothing to lose with these unhinged rants and obvious lies. They are in full damage control mode. If word about their illegal recording of clients gets is shared, then their clientele - save a few desperate whiteknights - will be decimated. 

I would go as far as to say that they purposefully derail thread after thread just to obfuscate the issue. They seem to think that their unhinged rants will somehow take away from the glaring elephant in the room that most if not all sp’s in this city are sexual predators.

Once again. PDC doesn't have and never has had cameras on clients. We also aren't an agency. I can't speak on anywhere else I never been to these places but I can speak 100 on PDC. You seriously need help. My rants aren't unhinged I would love opportunities to prove you wrong. Just let me know

[OF_Manager]

If anything actually shady was happening at skyline I would not still be working out of their places guys

Especially after YEARS later

You wont admit that they have cameras in their studio apartments. 

Have you asked the owner of Skyline to sign up here and defend themselves?

[MissHunter]

I have been soo fucking honest & tolerant here since the beginning now even I am Igetting accused of the craziest shit
What is even happening here?
I totally understand privacy & discretion. When have I ever fucked up with that??
So sorry so many of you me look at all providers suspiciously as the enemy. I can’t help you with that level of paranoia
But don’t fucking accuse me of shit I never ever fucking did. I’ve put almost 20 years into my solid rep so go fuck yourselves really

[MissHunter]

If anything actually shady was happening at skyline I would not still be working out of their places guys

Especially after YEARS later

You wont admit that they have cameras in their studio apartments. 

Have you asked the owner of Skyline to sign up here and defend themselves?

When have I ever denied any actual security cams that actually exist bro?
All it takes is eyes & at least a few functional brain cells to see them
Reputable places that have them don’t hide them 
They really have nothing to hide 
Paranoia gone wild here

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Alright clown, I really dont give a fuck. just because YOU specifically are fine with throwing your life away for this whiteknighting charade of yours doesnt mean its morally and legally right to blanket record ALL clients committing an illegal act. 

if theyre gonna do that, then they must give a disclaimer on the ad or during the booking process that there are cameras, in or out. of course that would probably decimate their clientele but thats what you get for what was accurately described here as predatory behaviour.

but i guess thats what you can expect from a simp who gives girls with quadruple digit body counts head.

What illegal act is being recorded if it’s outside the unit?

What illegal act is recorded immediately in a unit right inside a doorway? 
let me remind you guys SWs are humans too and can have guests like everyone else

[adastr@]

Jenna and Miss Hunter stop posting on this thread. You've had your say. 

Menz is gentlemen only club.

[Jennaxx]

Jenna and Miss Hunter stop posting on this thread. You've had your say. 

Menz is gentlemen only club.

I understand I'm responding to my name being brought up. I don't think that's wrong. My point has been made over and over yet you have a member who keeps going on and on. I don't want to keep repeating facts so perhaps that member can knock it off. No sense in repeating the same stuff over and over ??‍♀️

[yaletownfuckboi]

Adastra, Are you able to see when members were last online, even if they have their visibility set to hidden? I'd be interested to know if any of the other providers mentioned in this thread, who are members of this site, have been active online since the thread was started.

I'm also curious if anyone else mentioned in this thread has contacted you privately, though I understand if you prefer not to share that information out of respect for their privacy.

[adastr@]

Jenna and Miss Hunter stop posting on this thread. You've had your say. 

Menz is gentlemen only club.

I understand I'm responding to my name being brought up. I don't think that's wrong. My point has been made over and over yet you have a member who keeps going on and on. I don't want to keep repeating facts so perhaps that member can knock it off. No sense in repeating the same stuff over and over ??‍♀️

Jenna is banned for 3 days for disobeying a direct order from high command.

Adastra, Are you able to see when members were last online, even if they have their visibility set to hidden? I'd be interested to know if any of the other providers mentioned in this thread, who are members of this site, have been active online since the thread was started.

I'm also curious if anyone else mentioned in this thread has contacted you privately, though I understand if you prefer not to share that information out of respect for their privacy.

Yes, admin can see last online and last IP number. Admin can see everybody even if users have hidden selected.

Yes mentioned in this thread have contacted us privately. No I can't say who. 

If a member here, such as yourself, who is legitimate , who can verify from experience they saw a camera. Great! 
But we should not just allow a list that was copy and pasted from somewhere somehow from some unknown users. Don't you agree? 
It's not fair to falsely accuse people even if you dislike them.

[razzar1234]

Adastra, Are you able to see when members were last online, even if they have their visibility set to hidden? I'd be interested to know if any of the other providers mentioned in this thread, who are members of this site, have been active online since the thread was started.

I'm also curious if anyone else mentioned in this thread has contacted you privately, though I understand if you prefer not to share that information out of respect for their privacy.

They would most probably be using burner accounts, so we likely wouldnt be able to tell.

[Silverfox]

Personally, I would appreciate hearing an explanation from Nicole Vixen, as I noticed she now has an account here. The times I saw her, I don't recall ever noticing a camera, but I suppose that might be a sign of how captivated I was by her looks.

If she mentioned that she now understands things from the clients' perspective and stated she would no longer use a camera, I’d be open to seeing her again. However, if she continues using it, unfortunately, I would have to decline.

Regarding the other providers and agencies mentioned, I have no interest in seeing any of them. None of them are that good looking anyways.

[adastr@]

Personally, I would appreciate hearing an explanation from Nicole Vixen, as I noticed she now has an account here. The times I saw her, I don't recall ever noticing a camera, but I suppose that might be a sign of how captivated I was by her looks.

If she mentioned that she now understands things from the clients' perspective and stated she would no longer use a camera, I’d be open to seeing her again. However, if she continues using it, unfortunately, I would have to decline.

Regarding the other providers and agencies mentioned, I have no interest in seeing any of them. None of them are that good looking anyways.

Has it been confirmed that Nicole Vixon records inside her incall? 

This thread is problematic if we are posting false allegations from 3rd parties we cant verify. 

You guys are ruining this thread by posting unverified accusations.

[Johnny_HIGHROLLER]

Personally, I would appreciate hearing an explanation from Nicole Vixen, as I noticed she now has an account here. The times I saw her, I don't recall ever noticing a camera, but I suppose that might be a sign of how captivated I was by her looks.

If she mentioned that she now understands things from the clients' perspective and stated she would no longer use a camera, I’d be open to seeing her again. However, if she continues using it, unfortunately, I would have to decline.

Regarding the other providers and agencies mentioned, I have no interest in seeing any of them. None of them are that good looking anyways.

Has it been confirmed that Nicole Vixon records inside her incall? 

This thread is problematic if we are posting false allegations from 3rd parties we cant verify. 

You guys are ruining this thread by posting unverified accusations.

I have seen a camera at Nicole Vixens incall

[yaletownfuckboi]

Personally, I would appreciate hearing an explanation from Nicole Vixen, as I noticed she now has an account here. The times I saw her, I don't recall ever noticing a camera, but I suppose that might be a sign of how captivated I was by her looks.

If she mentioned that she now understands things from the clients' perspective and stated she would no longer use a camera, I’d be open to seeing her again. However, if she continues using it, unfortunately, I would have to decline.

Regarding the other providers and agencies mentioned, I have no interest in seeing any of them. None of them are that good looking anyways.

Has it been confirmed that Nicole Vixon records inside her incall? 

This thread is problematic if we are posting false allegations from 3rd parties we cant verify. 

You guys are ruining this thread by posting unverified accusations.

What exactly do you expect us to do? Do you want us to visit these incalls and take pictures or videos of the cameras so we can verify it for you? Essentially, are you asking us to dox ourselves just to prove it?

The only one that appears to be in dispute is PDC. I’ve never been there, so I don’t have any firsthand knowledge.

Regarding the Coco Collective allegations, I believe they stem from a situation years ago when one of their providers recorded men entering their incall on her laptop and posted the videos on TikTok. In that case, it was an isolated incident involving a rogue provider. That is essentially about as verified as you can get. 
However, I haven't come across any Ring cameras at any of the Coco Collective incalls. So as far as what we are talking about in this thread, I think Coco Collective is clean. 

The remaining allegations appear to be fairly verified. I’ve seen a few myself, and other accusations have been made by multiple credible members.

Additionally, none of the providers or agencies mentioned have come forward here to deny having cameras inside their incalls. That says a lot, t’s practically an admission of guilt.

And if you think about it logically, what would any of us gain from lying about there being cameras inside the incalls? How would that benefit anyone?

I'm actually surprised that so many providers have an issue with this site, because your moderation style consistently places the burden of proof on men, never on women. A woman's testimony is given more weight than the testimony of ten men in your moderation approach.