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Which agencies are female run?
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I want to avoid them.
JK
I might prefer a woman-run agency, but it might not matter as It depends on the individual woman at said agency.
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#2
Oh boy... this thread could lead to trouble.

I've had an SP confess to me last year, that she left the agency she was working because it was male owned. And more specifically, because the owner likes to sleep with the ladies on the roster. Who can blame him? In this sense, I can see the perspective of SP and why she might prefer a women-owned agency.

On the flip side. Men are much better at business and marketing, much much better. A man will enter into a situation looking for how to negotiate a win-win situation - whereas a women enter's a situation desperate to control some aspect of it. Happens almost 100% of the time. If your first move is start making demands - this is foolish, nobody will do business with you or even like you. If on the other hand , the first thing you do is inquire about how to get involved, things will work out great. This is how it goes on Menz so far.
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(04-11-2025, 01:35 PM)adastra Wrote: Oh boy... this thread could lead to trouble.

I've had an SP confess to me last year, that she left the agency she was working because it was male owned. And more specifically, because the owner likes to sleep with the ladies on the roster. Who can blame him? In this sense, I can see the perspective of SP and why she might prefer a women-owned agency.

On the flip side. Men are much better at business and marketing, much much better. A man will enter into a situation looking for how to negotiate a win-win situation - whereas a women enter's a situation desperate to control some aspect of it. Happens almost 100% of the time. If your first move is start making demands - this is foolish, nobody will do business with you or even like you. If on the other hand , the first thing you do is inquire about how to get involved, things will work out great. This is how it goes on Menz so far.


A popular narrative exists in some circles that men are inherently better at business and marketing than women. It's often argued that men naturally enter negotiations looking for win-win outcomes, while women are more inclined to seek control in any given situation. According to this perspective, women who lead with demands alienate potential partners, whereas men who approach with inquiry and cooperation tend to succeed. While this may reflect some personal experiences, these claims are built on oversimplified and often flawed generalizations. When we look deeper, it becomes clear that gender is not the defining factor in business acumen—mindset, experience, and opportunity are. 


The idea that men are better at business likely stems more from historical power structures than from inherent superiority. For centuries, men were the primary players in the business world—not because they were more skilled, but because societal norms and legal structures excluded women from participating. Access to networks, capital, education, and leadership roles were systematically denied to women. This resulted in a male-dominated landscape that continues to shape perceptions today. However, as barriers have started to break down, we’ve seen countless examples of women thriving in business when given equal opportunities. Entrepreneurs like Sara Blakely (Spanx), Whitney Wolfe Herd (Bumble), and executives like Bozoma Saint John have built brands, led companies, and disrupted markets—not in spite of being women, but because they brought something uniquely valuable to the table.



The assertion that men seek mutual benefit while women seek control simplifies human behavior to outdated gender tropes. In truth, individuals of all genders are capable of collaboration, strategy, assertiveness, and empathy. What often gets labeled as “controlling” in women is simply assertiveness or boundary-setting—traits that are typically celebrated in men. Social conditioning plays a significant role here: women are often discouraged from being direct or authoritative, while men are praised for taking charge. This double standard leads to biased interpretations of the same behavior, reinforcing harmful stereotypes.

Where the original claim hits closer to the mark is in the emphasis on approach. Beginning any interaction—business or otherwise—with curiosity, humility, and a desire to contribute rather than control is generally more effective. People respond better to collaboration than to demands. However, this is a principle of good communication, not a gendered trait. Men and women alike can fall into the trap of making demands too early or failing to listen, just as either can master the art of cooperative negotiation.

While personal experience might suggest patterns, it's dangerous to draw broad conclusions about gender and competence based on them. Men are not inherently better at business or marketing, nor are women predisposed to controlling behavior. These narratives do more harm than good, as they ignore the diversity of individual behavior and reinforce limiting stereotypes. The truth is that success in business comes down to mindset, experience, emotional intelligence, and access—not gender. If we want to foster environments where everyone can thrive, we must move beyond these old assumptions and evaluate people on their actions, not their identity.
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(04-11-2025, 01:49 PM)thatsoraven Wrote:
(04-11-2025, 01:35 PM)adastra Wrote: Oh boy... this thread could lead to trouble.

I've had an SP confess to me last year, that she left the agency she was working because it was male owned. And more specifically, because the owner likes to sleep with the ladies on the roster. Who can blame him? In this sense, I can see the perspective of SP and why she might prefer a women-owned agency.

On the flip side. Men are much better at business and marketing, much much better. A man will enter into a situation looking for how to negotiate a win-win situation - whereas a women enter's a situation desperate to control some aspect of it. Happens almost 100% of the time. If your first move is start making demands - this is foolish, nobody will do business with you or even like you. If on the other hand , the first thing you do is inquire about how to get involved, things will work out great. This is how it goes on Menz so far.


A popular narrative exists in some circles that men are inherently better at business and marketing than women. It's often argued that men naturally enter negotiations looking for win-win outcomes, while women are more inclined to seek control in any given situation. According to this perspective, women who lead with demands alienate potential partners, whereas men who approach with inquiry and cooperation tend to succeed. While this may reflect some personal experiences, these claims are built on oversimplified and often flawed generalizations. When we look deeper, it becomes clear that gender is not the defining factor in business acumen—mindset, experience, and opportunity are. 


The idea that men are better at business likely stems more from historical power structures than from inherent superiority. For centuries, men were the primary players in the business world—not because they were more skilled, but because societal norms and legal structures excluded women from participating. Access to networks, capital, education, and leadership roles were systematically denied to women. This resulted in a male-dominated landscape that continues to shape perceptions today. However, as barriers have started to break down, we’ve seen countless examples of women thriving in business when given equal opportunities. Entrepreneurs like Sara Blakely (Spanx), Whitney Wolfe Herd (Bumble), and executives like Bozoma Saint John have built brands, led companies, and disrupted markets—not in spite of being women, but because they brought something uniquely valuable to the table.



The assertion that men seek mutual benefit while women seek control simplifies human behavior to outdated gender tropes. In truth, individuals of all genders are capable of collaboration, strategy, assertiveness, and empathy. What often gets labeled as “controlling” in women is simply assertiveness or boundary-setting—traits that are typically celebrated in men. Social conditioning plays a significant role here: women are often discouraged from being direct or authoritative, while men are praised for taking charge. This double standard leads to biased interpretations of the same behavior, reinforcing harmful stereotypes.

Where the original claim hits closer to the mark is in the emphasis on approach. Beginning any interaction—business or otherwise—with curiosity, humility, and a desire to contribute rather than control is generally more effective. People respond better to collaboration than to demands. However, this is a principle of good communication, not a gendered trait. Men and women alike can fall into the trap of making demands too early or failing to listen, just as either can master the art of cooperative negotiation.

While personal experience might suggest patterns, it's dangerous to draw broad conclusions about gender and competence based on them. Men are not inherently better at business or marketing, nor are women predisposed to controlling behavior. These narratives do more harm than good, as they ignore the diversity of individual behavior and reinforce limiting stereotypes. The truth is that success in business comes down to mindset, experience, emotional intelligence, and access—not gender. If we want to foster environments where everyone can thrive, we must move beyond these old assumptions and evaluate people on their actions, not their identity.
Someone learnt to use ChatGPT lol

I little off topic dont we think?
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(04-11-2025, 02:28 PM)yaletownfuckboi Wrote:
(04-11-2025, 01:49 PM)thatsoraven Wrote: A popular narrative exists in some circles that men are inherently better at business and marketing than women. It's often argued that men naturally enter negotiations looking for win-win outcomes, while women are more inclined to seek control in any given situation. According to this perspective, women who lead with demands alienate potential partners, whereas men who approach with inquiry and cooperation tend to succeed. While this may reflect some personal experiences, these claims are built on oversimplified and often flawed generalizations. When we look deeper, it becomes clear that gender is not the defining factor in business acumen—mindset, experience, and opportunity are. 


The idea that men are better at business likely stems more from historical power structures than from inherent superiority. For centuries, men were the primary players in the business world—not because they were more skilled, but because societal norms and legal structures excluded women from participating. Access to networks, capital, education, and leadership roles were systematically denied to women. This resulted in a male-dominated landscape that continues to shape perceptions today. However, as barriers have started to break down, we’ve seen countless examples of women thriving in business when given equal opportunities. Entrepreneurs like Sara Blakely (Spanx), Whitney Wolfe Herd (Bumble), and executives like Bozoma Saint John have built brands, led companies, and disrupted markets—not in spite of being women, but because they brought something uniquely valuable to the table.



The assertion that men seek mutual benefit while women seek control simplifies human behavior to outdated gender tropes. In truth, individuals of all genders are capable of collaboration, strategy, assertiveness, and empathy. What often gets labeled as “controlling” in women is simply assertiveness or boundary-setting—traits that are typically celebrated in men. Social conditioning plays a significant role here: women are often discouraged from being direct or authoritative, while men are praised for taking charge. This double standard leads to biased interpretations of the same behavior, reinforcing harmful stereotypes.

Where the original claim hits closer to the mark is in the emphasis on approach. Beginning any interaction—business or otherwise—with curiosity, humility, and a desire to contribute rather than control is generally more effective. People respond better to collaboration than to demands. However, this is a principle of good communication, not a gendered trait. Men and women alike can fall into the trap of making demands too early or failing to listen, just as either can master the art of cooperative negotiation.

While personal experience might suggest patterns, it's dangerous to draw broad conclusions about gender and competence based on them. Men are not inherently better at business or marketing, nor are women predisposed to controlling behavior. These narratives do more harm than good, as they ignore the diversity of individual behavior and reinforce limiting stereotypes. The truth is that success in business comes down to mindset, experience, emotional intelligence, and access—not gender. If we want to foster environments where everyone can thrive, we must move beyond these old assumptions and evaluate people on their actions, not their identity.
Someone learnt to use ChatGPT lol

I little off topic dont we think?

I replied to Adrasta. Why are moderators allowed to switch the topic but then not be challenged for it?
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(04-11-2025, 01:49 PM)thatsoraven Wrote: A popular narrative exists in some circles that men are inherently better at business and marketing than women. It's often argued that men naturally enter negotiations looking for win-win outcomes, while women are more inclined to seek control in any given situation. According to this perspective, women who lead with demands alienate potential partners, whereas men who approach with inquiry and cooperation tend to succeed. While this may reflect some personal experiences, these claims are built on oversimplified and often flawed generalizations.

Yes I'm generalizing. Yes, I'm speaking from personal experience. Yes, everybody is different, who am I, nobody. Take it or leave it.


(04-11-2025, 01:49 PM)thatsoraven Wrote: The idea that men are better at business likely stems more from historical power structures than from inherent superiority. For centuries, men were the primary players in the business world—not because they were more skilled,

Absolutely wrong. Women and men are inherently different, to the core. There is nothing equal about men and women, other than that we are both human. That is the difference between feminists and normal women.
A normal woman loves being a woman. A feminist hates being a woman and wants to be a man.


(04-11-2025, 01:49 PM)thatsoraven Wrote: Men are not inherently better at business or marketing, nor are women predisposed to controlling behavior.

Yes they are, by far. No matter how woke your AI becomes. Use common sense. And I'd rather hear your own personal experience Raven, rather than woke AI crap like yaletown says.

And also, Raven, I just want to give you some advice about trusting your instincts. Whether you get into business now or in the future, be aware that you’re a woman. When you’re dealing with a man, try not to make any demands right off the bat. Keep things light and negotiable at first. Once you’ve established a rapport, then you can make your demands. That’s totally fine. A lot of women make the mistake of coming in strong with demands, and that’s not the way to do business.
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Just because an agency asserts that it is "female owned or operated" doesn't necessarily mean it's true. I know of a couple in another city who run an escort agency that promotes itself as "female owned and operated." However, the man actually owns the facilities, manages the daily operations, decides who to hire, and handles most of the advertising, essentially overseeing the majority of the business. Meanwhile, the woman serves as the public face, conducts interviews, and manages most of the phone inquiries.

Based on my observations, agencies that have male input in their hiring decisions tend to employ much more attractive women.
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(04-11-2025, 02:30 PM)thatsoraven Wrote:
(04-11-2025, 02:28 PM)yaletownfuckboi Wrote: Someone learnt to use ChatGPT lol

I little off topic dont we think?

I replied to Adrasta. Why are moderators allowed to switch the topic but then not be challenged for it?

Maybe try reading my post history before saying such things, because I have given Adastra and Altay shit many times for derailing threads.
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(04-11-2025, 03:45 PM)yaletownfuckboi Wrote:
(04-11-2025, 02:30 PM)thatsoraven Wrote: I replied to Adrasta. Why are moderators allowed to switch the topic but then not be challenged for it?

Maybe try reading my post history before saying such things, because I have given Adastra and Altay shit many times for derailing threads.

There are still no notifications on this site 

No, I'm not up to date on everything. 

Thanks for letting me know

(04-11-2025, 03:30 PM)adastra Wrote:
(04-11-2025, 01:49 PM)thatsoraven Wrote: A popular narrative exists in some circles that men are inherently better at business and marketing than women. It's often argued that men naturally enter negotiations looking for win-win outcomes, while women are more inclined to seek control in any given situation. According to this perspective, women who lead with demands alienate potential partners, whereas men who approach with inquiry and cooperation tend to succeed. While this may reflect some personal experiences, these claims are built on oversimplified and often flawed generalizations.

Yes I'm generalizing. Yes, I'm speaking from personal experience. Yes, everybody is different, who am I, nobody. Take it or leave it.


(04-11-2025, 01:49 PM)thatsoraven Wrote: The idea that men are better at business likely stems more from historical power structures than from inherent superiority. For centuries, men were the primary players in the business world—not because they were more skilled,

Absolutely wrong. Women and men are inherently different, to the core. There is nothing equal about men and women, other than that we are both human. That is the difference between feminists and normal women.
A normal woman loves being a woman. A feminist hates being a woman and wants to be a man.


(04-11-2025, 01:49 PM)thatsoraven Wrote: Men are not inherently better at business or marketing, nor are women predisposed to controlling behavior.

Yes they are, by far. No matter how woke your AI becomes. Use common sense. And I'd rather hear your own personal experience Raven, rather than woke AI crap like yaletown says.

And also, Raven, I just want to give you some advice about trusting your instincts. Whether you get into business now or in the future, be aware that you’re a woman. When you’re dealing with a man, try not to make any demands right off the bat. Keep things light and negotiable at first. Once you’ve established a rapport, then you can make your demands. That’s totally fine. A lot of women make the mistake of coming in strong with demands, and that’s not the way to do business.

This website is exhausting.  I won't bother to point out what's wrong with what you've said, because frankly it's a waste of my time, especially since I've already done it and youre only doubling down.
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(04-11-2025, 06:19 AM)Plato Wrote: I want to avoid them.
JK
I might prefer a woman-run agency, but it might not matter as It depends on the individual woman at said agency.

PDC I know for a fact is owned by a male. Asian Fever, XDS and Honeykiss have male handlers (it's pretty easy to tell when you're texting with a male or female lol).

All the rest have female handlers. From what I understand, many sp's are hesitant to work for agencies explicitly ran by men.
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(04-12-2025, 09:00 PM)razzar1234 Wrote:
(04-11-2025, 06:19 AM)Plato Wrote: I want to avoid them.
JK
I might prefer a woman-run agency, but it might not matter as It depends on the individual woman at said agency.

PDC I know for a fact is owned by a male. Asian Fever, XDS and Honeykiss have male handlers (it's pretty easy to tell when you're texting with a male or female lol).

All the rest have female handlers. From what I understand, many sp's are hesitant to work for agencies explicitly ran by men.

PDC isn't owned by a male
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Coco, Dollhouse, and VME are women-owned and run as far as I’m aware.
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(04-12-2025, 10:18 PM)thatsoraven Wrote:
(04-12-2025, 09:00 PM)razzar1234 Wrote: PDC I know for a fact is owned by a male. Asian Fever, XDS and Honeykiss have male handlers (it's pretty easy to tell when you're texting with a male or female lol).

All the rest have female handlers. From what I understand, many sp's are hesitant to work for agencies explicitly ran by men.

PDC isn't owned by a male

I've been with two sp's who confirmed that it was a man. 

But if you don't believe me, here's what a mere google search will find: https://www.reddit.com/r/SexWorkers/comm...urce=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button
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(04-13-2025, 11:58 AM)razzar1234 Wrote:
(04-12-2025, 10:18 PM)thatsoraven Wrote: PDC isn't owned by a male

I've been with two sp's who confirmed that it was a man. 

But if you don't believe me, here's what a mere google search will find: https://www.reddit.com/r/SexWorkers/comm...urce=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

I've rented condos from PDC for nearly 3 years now. The owner isn't a male. The user Carmen is  likely an agency. I believe trying to slander PDC so that the original poster would not request PDC
 The rates to rent the space are reasonable.
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(04-13-2025, 12:16 PM)thatsoraven Wrote:
(04-13-2025, 11:58 AM)razzar1234 Wrote: I've been with two sp's who confirmed that it was a man. 

But if you don't believe me, here's what a mere google search will find: https://www.reddit.com/r/SexWorkers/comm...urce=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

I've rented condos from PDC for nearly 3 years now. The owner isn't a male. The user Carmen is  likely an agency. I believe trying to slander PDC so that the original poster would not request PDC
 The rates to rent the space are reasonable.
yeah i dont really know or care about that user or the rent. It was just a random thing I found on Google. 

I personally have no issue with PDC. Definitely one of the better agencies in the lower mainland. Sure they have female employees (probably current or former sp's themselves). But at this point it's an open secret that PDC is male-run.
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(04-13-2025, 12:39 PM)razzar1234 Wrote:
(04-13-2025, 12:16 PM)thatsoraven Wrote: I've rented condos from PDC for nearly 3 years now. The owner isn't a male. The user Carmen is  likely an agency. I believe trying to slander PDC so that the original poster would not request PDC
 The rates to rent the space are reasonable.
yeah i dont really know or care about that user or the rent. It was just a random thing I found on Google. 

I personally have no issue with PDC. Definitely one of the better agencies in the lower mainland. Sure they have female employees (probably current or former sp's themselves). But at this point it's an open secret that PDC is male-run.

There is absolutely 0 male involvement.  Like I've said, I've been with PDC for nearly 3 years now. I've meet with and dealt with the owner of PDC multiple times. 100% female. 
This is nothing but a rumour.
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(04-13-2025, 12:39 PM)razzar1234 Wrote:
(04-13-2025, 12:16 PM)thatsoraven Wrote: I've rented condos from PDC for nearly 3 years now. The owner isn't a male. The user Carmen is  likely an agency. I believe trying to slander PDC so that the original poster would not request PDC
 The rates to rent the space are reasonable.
yeah i dont really know or care about that user or the rent. It was just a random thing I found on Google. 

I personally have no issue with PDC. Definitely one of the better agencies in the lower mainland. Sure they have female employees (probably current or former sp's themselves). But at this point it's an open secret that PDC is male-run.

Pink diamond is fully run by Jenna. It was started by Jenna and if you reach out to her you will see why she actually named it what she did. That thread on Reddit if you also reach out to her she will show you how she responded to the person who originally started that thread as it's no longer open for discussion. She can't figure out why someone is putting up false information or how to get it removed. But the concept behind pink diamond is fully Jenna. She also does everything on her own so I highly doubt someone is saying there's any man involved because she doesn't believe in having any men involved nor do anyone that work in pink diamond. Jenna's phone number is widely posted you should reach out to her so she can clarify your information because what you're posting is far from factual. Reddit is not the source that is credible by any means so taking it to the level of thinking it is is strange. But if you talk to any of the providers in pink diamond they will tell you that Jenna does everything on her own and she has from day one. But you should reach out to her and ask her why she named it pink diamond and any of the girls who work within that collective, it's not an agency, all know something very specific about Jenna and the reason why it's called pink diamond.
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(04-13-2025, 01:00 PM)Terryd Wrote:
(04-13-2025, 12:39 PM)razzar1234 Wrote: yeah i dont really know or care about that user or the rent. It was just a random thing I found on Google. 

I personally have no issue with PDC. Definitely one of the better agencies in the lower mainland. Sure they have female employees (probably current or former sp's themselves). But at this point it's an open secret that PDC is male-run.

Pink diamond is fully run by Jenna. It was started by Jenna and if you reach out to her you will see why she actually named it what she did. That thread on Reddit if you also reach out to her she will show you how she responded to the person who originally started that thread as it's no longer open for discussion. She can't figure out why someone is putting up false information or how to get it removed. But the concept behind pink diamond is fully Jenna. She also does everything on her own so I highly doubt someone is saying there's any man involved because she doesn't believe in having any men involved nor do anyone that work in pink diamond. Jenna's phone number is widely posted you should reach out to her so she can clarify your information because what you're posting is far from factual. Reddit is not the source that is credible by any means so taking it to the level of thinking it is is strange. But if you talk to any of the providers in pink diamond they will tell you that Jenna does everything on her own and she has from day one. But you should reach out to her and ask her why she named it pink diamond and any of the girls who work within that collective, it's not an agency, all know something very specific about Jenna and the reason why it's called pink diamond.

if you wish to blindly accept everything an sp tells you, then go right ahead. But unless you have specific proof that it's 100% female-run I'm not reading that shit.
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I can confirm too. PDC is 100% female run

Even down to the reason why she named it Pink Diamond Collective. Jenna loves pink, literally everything she owns is pink. Diamond.. diamonds are a girls best friend

I haven’t used her spaces as long as Raven but I’ve been using them a lot, especially lately and more than long enough to confirm there is no man in control. That is bs gossip

Something else worth a mention is she constantly deals with threats & bs from others. Sometimes have lost spaces cuz of malevolent bs. A real case of industry competition madness

Ever hear of the glass ceiling when it comes to women? Jenna has been dealing with it hard due to jealousy & competition

Btw her rates are very responsible, if anyone is actually complaining they haven’t been in this biz long
Or they just want everything handed to them on a silver platter
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