Justify cameras inside incalls

[OF_Manager]

Its so rapey to have cameras inside incalls.
Its so insecure and rapey to not advertise having cameras inside incalls.
As far as im concerned all the providers and agencies with cameras inside their incalls are rapists who dont care about mens consent.

Rape is a very serious accusation 

Do not equate legal security cams on private property which aren’t anywhere there is a reasonable expectation of privacy (inside bathrooms or bedrooms) of being the equivalent of rape

They are not legal security cameras.
There is a reasonable expectation of privacy, you're actually citing a law that includes a provision stating that when sex or nudity occurs, there is a reasonable expectation of privacy.
If you dont understand how rapey this is, its concerning that you are an escort, you clearly dont understand consent.
All the providers and agencies doing this are akin to rapists. Im sorry that you work for rapists and are defending rapists.

[Silverfox]

Its so rapey to have cameras inside incalls.
Its so insecure and rapey to not advertise having cameras inside incalls.
As far as im concerned all the providers and agencies with cameras inside their incalls are rapists who dont care about mens consent.

Rape is a very serious accusation 

Do not equate legal security cams on private property which aren’t anywhere there is a reasonable expectation of privacy (inside bathrooms or bedrooms) of being the equivalent of rape

From a legal standpoint, having cameras in the same room where the sexual activity is taking place constitutes sexual assault. Therefore, his labeling it as rape isn't much of a stretch, to be honest.

[Silverfox]

From a legal standpoint, having cameras in the same room where the sexual activity is taking place constitutes sexual assault. Therefore, his labeling it as rape isn't much of a stretch, to be honest.

Where are these cams that are actually inside the same room sexual activity is taking place? What does that have to do with me? 

I am defending the use of door cams, if reputable places actually use them ethically, that are only capturing a doorway, And aren’t actually capturing nudity or any sexual activity

The one you've been defending at AF points directly down the hallway, where the washroom and bedroom are located opposite each other, would obviously be capturing nudity. It would be naive to think otherwise.

For other incalls, if it's a studio apartment, the sex takes place in the same room, which has been explained to you countless times.

Any sound recordings also capture sexual activity, and these appear to be Ring cameras which record audio.
Any sound recordings also capture sexual activity, as these appear to be Ring cameras that record audio.

[OF_Manager]

Some ask why no one else is coming on here to explain and defend themselves

Well probably cuz they think they will get dragged through the mud too

No its because they know they are creepy rapists and its indefensible

[razzar1234]

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[MissHunter]

And this board accused PDC of having them which they do not at any of of their locations.

They do have cameras, as i have seen with my own two eyes. 

You were caught recording clients having sex in your incall space (link to the evidence for those unaware: https://menz.life/forum/showthread.php?t...32#pid5032)

End of story.

Which PDC location? I’ve worked out of many of them for almost a year and haven’t seen these cams you’re accusing them of having

And stop with the bs accusations that I am recording my clients in sessions without their consent

[TB12]

Just so you guys know, I’ve been to an incall (one of the ones mentioned) where there were cameras inside. I didn’t realize until I was finished and putting on my shoes to leave that one of the cameras was pointed at the doorway from inside. So, no matter how obvious they think the cameras are, they can go unnoticed by men who are distracted or not paying attention to the wall above them.

I try not to get involved in drama, im a mild mannered guy but I did feel violated.

[okfallsdude]

What I don’t understand is if it’s always been a thing and it’s there for your safety,

Is it not the greatest deterrent ?

Like if you advertised you had cameras yes lots of clients wouldn’t show up, but you definitely wouldn’t get the hyper creepy bad dudes.

They don’t tell men because they want to use it as leverage at some point , that one chick from WCa Katie angel was still blackmailing men after she found out she was pregnant.

Because she had a camera at one of her incalls .

Like in no world should we trust the sex workers, men are at more of a risk than women and women can just cry and be supported

[razzar1234]

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[OF_Manager]

Which PDC location? I’ve worked out of many of them for almost a year and haven’t seen these cams you’re accusing them of having

And stop with the bs accusations that I am recording my clients in sessions without their consent

You were caught lying and now youre being called out on it. You are very well aware of the presence of cameras at PDC. But you lie about it just as you lie about saving the footage of your incall cameras.

It doesn't help that she won't acknowledge that Skyline has them inside their studio apartments, which is essentially the same as having them inside the bedroom.
She works for an agency that films men having sex without their consent, she is defending the rape of men.

[Jediknight]

Which PDC location? I’ve worked out of many of them for almost a year and haven’t seen these cams you’re accusing them of having

And stop with the bs accusations that I am recording my clients in sessions without their consent

You were caught lying and now youre being called out on it. You are very well aware of the presence of cameras at PDC. But you lie about it just as you lie about saving the footage of your incall cameras.

I'm a PDC regular pooner. Seen about half the roster. I would say I have been to about 10 (?) or so locations and never seen a camera. I wouldn't be comfortable returning if there was.

[MissHunter]

You were caught lying and now youre being called out on it. You are very well aware of the presence of cameras at PDC. But you lie about it just as you lie about saving the footage of your incall cameras.

It doesn't help that she won't acknowledge that Skyline has them inside their studio apartments, which is essentially the same as having them inside the bedroom.
She works for an agency that films men having sex without their consent, she is defending the rape of men.

I do not, nor have I ever worked with or for anyone who is filming people having sex without their consent

[razzar1234]

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[Jediknight]

I'm curious how this thread started as a newb. Was someone filmed and it was posted or this is just a topic of discussion on the board

[yaletownfuckboi]

You were caught lying and now youre being called out on it. You are very well aware of the presence of cameras at PDC. But you lie about it just as you lie about saving the footage of your incall cameras.

I'm a PDC regular pooner. Seen about half the roster. I would say I have been to about 10 (?) or so locations and never seen a camera. I wouldn't be comfortable returning if there was.

Yeah, I haven't been to PDC before. However, since several people have mentioned they don't have cameras, it's safe to assume they either don't have any or that if there was one present, it was probably installed by an individual rogue provider. Thats my opinion atlleast.

I believe that bringing up PDC in this thread and similar threads is just diverting attention from the other agencies and providers that are confirmed to have cameras inside their incalls. If people want to debate whether PDC has cameras, it should be done in a separate thread so as not to distract from the actual parties responsible here.

Not saying you are doing that.

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I'm curious how this thread started as a newb. Was someone filmed and it was posted or this is just a topic of discussion on the board

It started on this thread:
https://menz.life/forum/showthread.php?tid=452

There was a Perb thread too but the mods deleted it for no apparent reason

[razzar1234]

You were caught lying and now youre being called out on it. You are very well aware of the presence of cameras at PDC. But you lie about it just as you lie about saving the footage of your incall cameras.

I'm a PDC regular pooner. Seen about half the roster. I would say I have been to about 10 (?) or so locations and never seen a camera. I wouldn't be comfortable returning if there was.

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[Jediknight]

I've never met Jenna only seen her in crossing. But I do have her telegram account I can share

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I'm a PDC regular pooner. Seen about half the roster. I would say I have been to about 10 (?) or so locations and never seen a camera. I wouldn't be comfortable returning if there was.

Yeah, I haven't been to PDC before. However, since several people have mentioned they don't have cameras, it's safe to assume they either don't have any or that if there was one present, it was probably installed by an individual rogue provider. Thats my opinion atlleast.

I believe that bringing up PDC in this thread and similar threads is just diverting attention from the other agencies and providers that are confirmed to have cameras inside their incalls. If people want to debate whether PDC has cameras, it should be done in a separate thread so as not to distract from the actual parties responsible here.

Not saying you are doing that.

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I'm curious how this thread started as a newb. Was someone filmed and it was posted or this is just a topic of discussion on the board

It started on this thread:
https://menz.life/forum/showthread.php?tid=452

There was a Perb thread too but the mods deleted it for no apparent reason

Thank you for sharing. I think it's very safe to assume they don't. Having been at approximately 10 locations and I'm very hesitant to return to any place that has cameras at the front door agency or not. PDC has never had them Anytime I went and last I was there was 2 weeks ago 

Smart to concentrate on where they actually are n would like to be informed as it's a hard no for me.

I had seen the perb thread it was briefly there but I'm unable to see anything now they banned my account for a multi account?

Cheers

[yaletownfuckboi]

I've never met Jenna only seen her in crossing. But I do have her telegram account I can share

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Yeah, I haven't been to PDC before. However, since several people have mentioned they don't have cameras, it's safe to assume they either don't have any or that if there was one present, it was probably installed by an individual rogue provider. Thats my opinion atlleast.

I believe that bringing up PDC in this thread and similar threads is just diverting attention from the other agencies and providers that are confirmed to have cameras inside their incalls. If people want to debate whether PDC has cameras, it should be done in a separate thread so as not to distract from the actual parties responsible here.

Not saying you are doing that.

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It started on this thread:
https://menz.life/forum/showthread.php?tid=452

There was a Perb thread too but the mods deleted it for no apparent reason

Thank you for sharing. I think it's very safe to assume they don't. Having been at approximately 10 locations and I'm very hesitant to return to any place that has cameras at the front door agency or not. PDC has never had them Anytime I went and last I was there was 2 weeks ago 

Smart to concentrate on where they actually are n would like to be informed as it's a hard no for me.

I had seen the perb thread it was briefly there but I'm unable to see anything now they banned my account for a multi account?

Cheers

If you have seen any at any other incalls or anywhere please post them in the other thread!

They ban everyone for "multihandle troll" over at Perb haha the mods there are mentally ill

[Jediknight]

I've never met Jenna only seen her in crossing. But I do have her telegram account I can share

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Thank you for sharing. I think it's very safe to assume they don't. Having been at approximately 10 locations and I'm very hesitant to return to any place that has cameras at the front door agency or not. PDC has never had them Anytime I went and last I was there was 2 weeks ago 

Smart to concentrate on where they actually are n would like to be informed as it's a hard no for me.

I had seen the perb thread it was briefly there but I'm unable to see anything now they banned my account for a multi account?

Cheers

If you have seen any at any other incalls or anywhere please post them in the other thread!

They ban everyone for "multihandle troll" over at Perb haha the mods there are mentally ill

Bunz club I have seen cameras and then it was explained by a provider who left that agency that the locations had them at the front door. Skyline I will never go back. AF also won't go back. 

I haven't seen them at Coco went a few off times. I haven't seen them at PDC

I also agree it should be disclosed prior as it would influence weather we visit or not.