Vancouver Escort Talent Pool

[MB_]

I’ve seen a few people mention that the escort scene in Vancouver has become pretty limited lately, and I’d have to agree. Thought I’d start a thread to talk about it.
what do you think is behind this trend?

[OF_Manager]

If I were an escort, Vancouver wouldn’t be my choice of city to operate in. The overhead costs are high, and there are fewer clients with disposable income.

[Marko]

This was also posted in other threads too -but its not lack of talent but rates being completely absurd right now. It's not that we can't afford it - it's that we can't justify it. It's not worth it.

Many of these Asian agencies have ladies at $250 per hour. When I browse Tryst, I'm dumbfounded how much these SPs are asking right now. Take for example somebody like Gabriela Valiente, who charges $800 per hour. Gabriela has the overwhelming consensus on Menz of not being attractive. Compare that to Nicole Vixen who is the highest rated here and she's at $600/hr, which is still too high imo. Clients are not going to pay these inflated prices.

Compound this by the fact that you are not allowed to discuss rates on Perb, which is so stupid and ridiculous - these SPs are not getting the clue or the feedback they require to make better business decisions. Many clients would rather have 3 sessions with a cute young fit Asian girl, than have one session with an mediocre white girl. You can see this reflected on Perb too with the influx of Asian reviews. Not to mention that the Asians offer more extras, including bbfs for some of them.

The extras are another factor too reducing business for SPs. Island's Finest is bad for this, Beach Bunnies is bad for this. You go in expecting to pay $300 per hour but end up paying $700 for simple extras that should be included. All I can say is that the Asians are looking more and more appealing and whitey is going to lose out if she doesn't adapt.

[Boomba]

If I were an escort, Vancouver wouldn’t be my choice of city to operate in. The overhead costs are high, and there are fewer clients with disposable income.

This also means that some services you’d find pretty commonly in other cities aren’t as common in Vancouver. Take happy ending massages, for example, they’re pretty normal in a lot of other places in Canada and seem almost as popular as full service. But in Vancouver, hardly anyone offers it. Probably because it doesn’t pay as well as full service, and the overhead just isn’t worth it for most.

[OF_Manager]

This was also posted in other threads too -but its not lack of talent but rates being completely absurd right now. It's not that we can't afford it - it's that we can't justify it. It's not worth it.

Many of these Asian agencies have ladies at $250 per hour. When I browse Tryst, I'm dumbfounded how much these SPs are asking right now. Take for example somebody like Gabriela Valiente, who charges $800 per hour. Gabriela has the overwhelming consensus on Menz of not being attractive. Compare that to Nicole Vixen who is the highest rated here and she's at $600/hr, which is still too high imo. Clients are not going to pay these inflated prices.

I wonder if Gabriela truly doesn’t realize how unattractive most men find her. She gives off a bit of a psychopath, so maybe she’s aware. Either way, she’s definitely not getting the same level of attention that more attractive women do.

I'm a bit surprised Nicole raised her rate from $500 to $600, but at least she still offers 30-minute appointments. That gives guys a chance to try her out and makes her services more accessible to a wider range of clients.

[yaletownfuckboi]

I'm not interested in paying for sex with women in their 30s and 40s.
Most of the advertisers on Tryst are women in their 30s and 40s who are pretending to be in their 20s.

[Marko]

I'm not interested in paying for sex with women in their 30s and 40s.
Most of the advertisers on Tryst are women in their 30s and 40s who are pretending to be in their 20s.

Yep. If I'm going to bother paying for sex, she needs to be a young and hot. Because I can go date an older women no problem, but a young women is much harder to get.

Take someone like Skyler Mack. She is good looking but she is too old now. There might be a small niche for older women but most clients want young fresh women.

Many of these escorts think they can keep doing this job forever. They don't admit to themselves that the clock is ticking.

[zoomer]

If I were an escort, Vancouver wouldn’t be my choice of city to operate in. The overhead costs are high, and there are fewer clients with disposable income.

This also means that some services you’d find pretty commonly in other cities aren’t as common in Vancouver. Take happy ending massages, for example, they’re pretty normal in a lot of other places in Canada and seem almost as popular as full service. But in Vancouver, hardly anyone offers it. Probably because it doesn’t pay as well as full service, and the overhead just isn’t worth it for most.

I only did massage with handjobs for years before I finally did full service. 
And now massage with handjobs are still fun for me, its become a fetish of sorts. 
More woman should offer this.

[Smwhoregasboard]

If I were an escort, Vancouver wouldn’t be my choice of city to operate in. The overhead costs are high, and there are fewer clients with disposable income.

Major Canadian cities, although expensive and competitive, are much safer to operate in versus American cities. 

Limited risk of pimps and law enforcement in comparison to working in the USA. 

Women can earn their income in peace, live comfortably off the welfare and not pay taxes while doing so. 

It’s a gravy train in this country for women.

[OF_Manager]

If I were an escort, Vancouver wouldn’t be my choice of city to operate in. The overhead costs are high, and there are fewer clients with disposable income.

Major Canadian cities, although expensive and competitive, are much safer to operate in versus American cities. 

Limited risk of pimps and law enforcement in comparison to working in the USA. 

Women can earn their income in peace, live comfortably off the welfare and not pay taxes while doing so. 

It’s a gravy train in this country for women.

I was referring to other Canadian cities for comparison. You’re kidding yourself if you think Vancouver is full of wealthy people with heaps of disposable income.
When it comes to the US, it really depends on the state. I manage a lot of girls there who also escort, and they don’t have any issues, no pimps, no fear of law enforcement. Maybe its different in places like Alabama, but the major states are all fine . This is just baby boomer fear mongering.

In Canada, escorts can still get into trouble for not paying taxes. However, most of them don’t earn enough to raise any red flags.

[razzar1234]

If I were an escort, Vancouver wouldn’t be my choice of city to operate in. The overhead costs are high, and there are fewer clients with disposable income.

Is that the case for places like LA or Vegas as well?

[Smwhoregasboard]

I’ve seen a few people mention that the escort scene in Vancouver has become pretty limited lately, and I’d have to agree. Thought I’d start a thread to talk about it.
what do you think is behind this trend?

The sugar daddy impact is real. Convinced many have tired of seeking arrangement websites and working through Leolist. They have simply cut out the middle man. 

The formula is so obvious. Visit a independent girl or agency. Test drive the goods. Gauge the chemistry and receptiveness to a long term arrangement. Close the deal and buy out her best years before we all get a taste.

It’s always been like this but it’s happening faster and faster these days. Agencies are nothing but training grounds now.

[yaletownfuckboi]

I’ve seen a few people mention that the escort scene in Vancouver has become pretty limited lately, and I’d have to agree. Thought I’d start a thread to talk about it.
what do you think is behind this trend?

The sugar daddy impact is real. Convinced many have tired of seeking arrangement websites and working through Leolist. They have simply cut out the middle man. 

The formula is so obvious. Visit a independent girl or agency. Test drive the goods. Gauge the chemistry and receptiveness to a long term arrangement. Close the deal and buy out her best years before we all get a taste.

It’s always been like this but it’s happening faster and faster these days. Agencies are nothing but training grounds now.

Is that actually whats happening?

I agree that sugar dating is likely drawing some market share away from escorting, but since sugar dating has been around for quite a while, it doesn't really account for the post-COVID decline in the escort scene in Vancouver.

I also feel like the men who are genuine sugar daddies typically aren't interested in sugar babies with a background in escorting. On the flip side, many women turn to escorting because they weren’t able to succeed as sugar babies, which might explain why a lot of escorts tend to be average looking and on the older side.

[Smwhoregasboard]

The sugar daddy impact is real. Convinced many have tired of seeking arrangement websites and working through Leolist. They have simply cut out the middle man. 

The formula is so obvious. Visit a independent girl or agency. Test drive the goods. Gauge the chemistry and receptiveness to a long term arrangement. Close the deal and buy out her best years before we all get a taste.

It’s always been like this but it’s happening faster and faster these days. Agencies are nothing but training grounds now.

Is that actually whats happening?

From my observations on how quickly attractive women enter and exit the industry, I’d say so. 

Covid absolutely played a role. Inflation caused a surge in costs to participate and I don’t blame a guy securing something high end (discounted) for long term financial security. 

I meet with returning to the scene girls all the time and when I inquire on the cause for their disappearance, often the answer is getting a “boyfriend”. 

When pressed they usually come clean on the matter and share that he could not afford to keep them due to their lifestyle expenses. Promises made. Rarely kept. 

Translation being he grew tired of them or chose to shift the financial terms and they were opposed. 

Recently Sofia from Tempgf was “retired”. She was a single mom. Posts on perb described her not coming back. Met a great guy. Time will tell. 

I could name countless others that lacked the economic means to retire and only did so because sugar daddies sniped them off the work floor.

[yaletownfuckboi]

Is that actually whats happening?

From my observations on how quickly attractive women enter and exit the industry, I’d say so. 

Covid absolutely played a role. Inflation caused a surge in costs to participate and I don’t blame a guy securing something high end (discounted) for long term financial security. 

I meet with returning to the scene girls all the time and when I inquire on the cause for their disappearance, often the answer is getting a “boyfriend”. 

When pressed they usually come clean on the matter and share that he could not afford to keep them due to their lifestyle expenses. Promises made. Rarely kept. 

Translation being he grew tired of them or chose to shift the financial terms and they were opposed. 

Recently Sofia from Tempgf was “retired”. She was a single mom. Posts on perb described her not coming back. Met a great guy. Time will tell. 

I could name countless others that lacked the economic means to retire and only did so because sugar daddies sniped them off the work floor.

Well, that's more about girls starting a relationship or getting a boyfriend, not necessarily about having a sugar daddy.

If I had to guess, I’d say most girls who become escorts don’t plan on it being a career or a long-term thing. I’d imagine most see it as something they’ll do for a short time to make some extra money. Sure, some end up stuck in it or addicted to the easy cash, but it’s not exactly rocket science to know it’s not a smart long-term career choice.

[aceee]

The number of girls working in the prime age group is quite low. Among those who are in this age bracket, many aren't good looking

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This also means that some services you’d find pretty commonly in other cities aren’t as common in Vancouver. Take happy ending massages, for example, they’re pretty normal in a lot of other places in Canada and seem almost as popular as full service. But in Vancouver, hardly anyone offers it. Probably because it doesn’t pay as well as full service, and the overhead just isn’t worth it for most.

I only did massage with handjobs for years before I finally did full service. 
And now massage with handjobs are still fun for me, its become a fetish of sorts. 
More woman should offer this.

Id imagine many men with wives would prefer the happy ending massage due to STD concerns.

It appears unwise for escort to have such a small pool of talent focusing on this market segment. There is alot of consumer demands not being met effectively.