"complaining" about rates?

[razzar1234]

would any of them even get bookings if they didnt catfish with edited and old pictures

who wants to pay for sex with an ugly or a mid

not many, but a lot of those sp's probably target the incel-types who'd fuck anything that moves

[yaletownfuckboi]

A lot of SP's seem to think that just because we're wealthy, we should just roll over, and give up any amount of money without question. 
In reality, it's an issue of value. A 5 shouldn't charge the rate of a 10. That's a simple fact.

It's so funny reading some of the comments here, especially this one above.  Are you also in favour of rent controls?  Supply management gets your vote too?  Sex work is a free market:  a 1 can charge whatever they want.  Here's a little secret - you don't have to pay the rate if you don't want to.  If no one is buying, then the swer will lower their rates or leave the business or rebrand.  If you see the price staying at a 10 for someone you think is a 5, then probably they float someone's boat and are making enough not to have to lower their rates.  This isn't rocket science lol

That reasoning presumes that these girls with high rates are receiving regular bookings and returning clients. I would guess that most of them are only getting a couple clients each month, and many aren't seeing repeat business because they attract customers with edited photos etc, essentially deceiving them. 
Many of these girls appear to be "10s" in their photos, but in person, they are only be a "5." This industry doesn't typically bring in exceptionally attractive women.

If the girls charging $1,000 an hour were seeing a high volume of clients, they would be living extravagantly, and they arent. Instead, I would assume this isn't their primary source of income. I would guess that those charging lower rates are actually earning more.

[Wario]

It's so funny reading some of the comments here, especially this one above.  Are you also in favour of rent controls?  Supply management gets your vote too?  Sex work is a free market:  a 1 can charge whatever they want.  Here's a little secret - you don't have to pay the rate if you don't want to.  If no one is buying, then the swer will lower their rates or leave the business or rebrand.  If you see the price staying at a 10 for someone you think is a 5, then probably they float someone's boat and are making enough not to have to lower their rates.  This isn't rocket science lol

That reasoning presumes that these girls with high rates are receiving regular bookings and returning clients. I would guess that most of them are only getting a couple clients each month, and many aren't seeing repeat business because they attract customers with edited photos etc, essentially deceiving them. 
Many of these girls appear to be "10s" in their photos, but in person, they are only be a "5." This industry doesn't typically bring in exceptionally attractive women.

If the girls charging $1,000 an hour were seeing a high volume of clients, they would be living extravagantly, and they arent. Instead, I would assume this isn't their primary source of income. I would guess that those charging lower rates are actually earning more.

Its funny you mentioned this because I just saw a provider share on her personal instagram story that she's doing taxes for her other non escort job, despite being a $1,000 an hour escort. Clearly she isn't getting many clients.

[yaletownfuckboi]

That reasoning presumes that these girls with high rates are receiving regular bookings and returning clients. I would guess that most of them are only getting a couple clients each month, and many aren't seeing repeat business because they attract customers with edited photos etc, essentially deceiving them. 
Many of these girls appear to be "10s" in their photos, but in person, they are only be a "5." This industry doesn't typically bring in exceptionally attractive women.

If the girls charging $1,000 an hour were seeing a high volume of clients, they would be living extravagantly, and they arent. Instead, I would assume this isn't their primary source of income. I would guess that those charging lower rates are actually earning more.

Its funny you mentioned this because I just saw a provider share on her personal instagram story that she's doing taxes for her other non escort job, despite being a $1,000 an hour escort. Clearly she isn't getting many clients.

Emma Sinclair ?

[ALTay]

don't complain
just pay or do not.
that's it.
the market will self regulate, hopefully

[Wario]

Its funny you mentioned this because I just saw a provider share on her personal instagram story that she's doing taxes for her other non escort job, despite being a $1,000 an hour escort. Clearly she isn't getting many clients.

Emma Sinclair ?

Yes it was haha

[thatsoraven]

Its funny you mentioned this because I just saw a provider share on her personal instagram story that she's doing taxes for her other non escort job, despite being a $1,000 an hour escort. Clearly she isn't getting many clients.

Emma Sinclair ?

Or maybe she loves her non escort job, and isn't trying to have more than 5 clients per month. Hmmm. Many have a quality over quantity approach.

[yaletownfuckboi]

Emma Sinclair ?

Yes it was haha

She serves as a prime example of a provider whose extremely edited photos don't reflect her true appearance. In her ad, she looks like an 8, but in real life, she is as a 5 or 6, all while charging rates that a 10 would demand. Id also be quite shocked if she was her listed age of 27, she looks early to mid 30s.

[Mikey]

don't complain 
just pay or do not.
that's it.
the market will self regulate, hopefully

I wasn't expecting to find something we agree on, Altay, but I'm with you in this instance lol

[not_a_drugdealer]

don't complain 
just pay or do not.
that's it.
the market will self regulate, hopefully

I wasn't expecting to find something we agree on, Altay, but I'm with you in this instance lol

I dunno what you guys are smoking

If a high rate provider fails to meet expectations, whether in terms of service or appearance not matching the advertisement, or if the experience doesn’t provide good value in any regard, it’s a good idea to provide feedback and caution others to prevent them from experiencing the same disappointment.

The same applies when a provider offers good value, you should to speak up to help her business or give a recommendation.

It's truly disheartening how eager for validation both of you seem to be, to the point that you believe no one should offer critical feedback.

You guys really want guys out here getting ripped off.

[MissHunter]

I wasn't expecting to find something we agree on, Altay, but I'm with you in this instance lol

I dunno what you guys are smoking

If a high rate provider fails to meet expectations, whether in terms of service or appearance not matching the advertisement, or if the experience doesn’t provide good value in any regard, it’s a good idea to provide feedback and caution others to prevent them from experiencing the same disappointment.

The same applies when a provider offers good value, you should to speak up to help her business or give a recommendation.

It's truly disheartening how eager for validation both of you seem to be, to the point that you believe no one should offer critical feedback.

You guys really want guys out here getting ripped off.

I don’t think they mean you shouldn't write a review 
Or if someone grossly misrepresents themselves, you’re not forced to stay just walk 
If they flip out about that… again… just write a review

[ALTay]

I wasn't expecting to find something we agree on, Altay, but I'm with you in this instance lol

I dunno what you guys are smoking

If a high rate provider fails to meet expectations, whether in terms of service or appearance not matching the advertisement, or if the experience doesn’t provide good value in any regard, it’s a good idea to provide feedback and caution others to prevent them from experiencing the same disappointment.

The same applies when a provider offers good value, you should to speak up to help her business or give a recommendation.

It's truly disheartening how eager for validation both of you seem to be, to the point that you believe no one should offer critical feedback.

You guys really want guys out here getting ripped off.

Provider cannot ask or demand no reviews.
It is a brotherhood duty to review good or bad.
The moment a SP joined the industry, she must be ready for reviews and cannot stop them or worse throw threats for bad reviews. Providers can ask whatever for their service, it is men who prove those retes right or wrong.

[Mikey]

not_a_drugdealer: you missed my point when I agreed with Altay. I'm 100% for reviews! I've benefited immensely from others, and I've contributed many on the other board. My process is almost always the same: read reviews, find a lady in my budget range that I like, check out their socials if they have them (i.e. twitter), maybe check their OF if they have one, contact and explain what I'm looking for (and I evaluate how they communicate with me at this point), and if I'm happy after all that then I book a session. Then, if I had a good time or not so great time, I'll post a review if I have the energy. If they are heavily reviewed and recently reviewed, I might not bother unless my experience was different.

I just don't see the point in guys complaining endlessly about how a Providers rates are too high for how they look - if they HAVEN'T SEEN THEM. If they've seen them and have a comment/review, then they should post a review of the session and the value. If they don't look like what they post in their ads and they're obviously trying to get guys in the door with misleading photos that are heavily edited/out of date, then the reviews are even more important.

Speculating about how busy they are, or aren't, at a certain price-point is a waste of time. As Altay posted: "just pay or do not.
that's it. the market will self regulate, hopefully". He sounds a bit like Yoda lol

[MissHunter]

The sw market does self regulate. The free market will prevail. Either you’re doing a good job at getting & maintaining clients. Or you don’t and that’s a sign changes should be made if you want to actually make $

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This job is so much easier once you build up a steady stream of return clients & regulars

I said before if the economy burns to the ground & I have to lower my rates I will. I have responsibilities & not going to sit on my ass & not earn

[OF_Manager]

You guys are acting like there is an epidemic of guys complaining about rates for providers they haven't seen....

Its almost always guys saying it about providers they have seen

Even then, there are certain situations where I think it's valid to comment on a provider's rates you haven't seen, especially when they are obviously trying to take advantage of vulnerable clients, which happens quite often.

[quarterback]

I don't believe we are merely speculating. It's clear that agencies have an upper limit and cap on their hourly rates, which is around $550 for the hour, with most girls charging lower. Thus, it’s reasonable to conclude that rates exceeding this threshold yield diminishing returns, ultimately affecting the number of bookings to the extent that it becomes economically unviable for agencies to charge more.

Consequently, I believe it's entirely justifiable to criticize any hourly rates exceeding $550, as the market has indicated this to be the upper limit, with demand for anything higher being insufficient. This raises ethical and ego concerns about providers who charge more than $550 per hour, as it does not align with market economics and demand.

Having seen many high-rate escorts myself, I think the most I’ve paid for an hour is $1500, and I've spent even more on sugar babies. These prices don't strain my finances or hurt my wallet, but there have been several instances where I've paid high rates and later regretted it, feeling that it was a waste of both my time and money, having felt deceived, and wishing I had seen someone else instead.